How to Remain Creative in Motherhood

By
Hannah Kissel
June 30, 2026
52
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About the episode

In this episode, Hannah sits down with Andrea Bombino - motherhood and career coach, matrescence expert, and longtime friend - to unpack the developmental transition into motherhood that almost no one talks about: matrescence. Coined in the 1970s and only recently brought back into the mainstream, matrescence describes the profound physical, psychological, and identity-level transformation that happens when a woman becomes a mother. Andrea breaks down why Western culture fails to recognize this transition the way it recognizes adolescence, and why high-achieving women in particular struggle to accept a season of life that doesn't match their old definition of success. This conversation goes deep into ambition after motherhood, the guilt of slowing down, burnout recovery, values-based decision making, and why creative hobbies — even five minutes of painting or journaling — are non-negotiable for staying grounded. If you're a working mother, an executive navigating parental leave, or simply someone redefining what success looks like in this season of your life, this episode is essential listening.

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Timestamps:

00:30 — Welcome Andrea Bombino to Big Fucking Dreams
01:30 — What is matrescence? Definition and origins of the term
03:00 — Why matrescence was rediscovered through postpartum depression research
04:00 — The different domains of matrescence: physical, relational, career, identity
05:30 — Why society treats teenage development with grace but not motherhood
06:30 — Western capitalist culture vs. how other cultures honor postpartum recovery
08:00 — Hyper-independence and the resistance to accepting support
09:30 — The shift in ambition: why some high-achieving women want to pause their careers
10:30 — Andrea's personal panic when she found out she was pregnant after a promotion
11:30 — "Pregnancy is the shortest ramp-up time for a career change"
12:30 — How ambition shifts and sharpens instead of disappearing
16:00 — Acceptance, impatience, and burnout recovery
18:00 — The invisible labor of motherhood and lack of recognition
20:30 — A constant practice in acceptance: choosing values over old definitions of success
25:00 — Behind the curtain: what "having it all together" actually requires
28:30 — Andrea's hobbies and the prioritization of fun in motherhood
30:00 — How career achievement became Andrea's sole measure of self-worth
33:30 — Finding healing through watercolor painting with her daughter
36:00 — The neuroscience of making things with your hands and lowering cortisol
39:00 — "Life is meant to be lived" — redefining what brings you joy
41:00 — The eighth-grade memory that shaped Andrea's relationship with happiness
43:00 — Why prioritizing hobbies as a mom is not selfish — bringing kids into the joy
46:00 — Moving to Italy, taking risks, and living life on your own terms
48:00 — "Do it your own way" — permission to change your mind
49:30 — Becoming more confident in who you are, the longer you're a mother
50:00 — Where to find Andrea Bombino + final thoughts

Hi there, I'm Hannah

Executive Coach, podcaster, speaker, writer, and builder of big f*cking Dreams. My mission? To help ambitious professionals build self-acceptance, self-trust in their careers.

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